Is it fair to say we are all hopelessly romantic?

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Conversation Excerpt from Msn Messenger.

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Midas: Back in action says: watcha up to

Shelli... says:
nuffin
Shelli... says: reading and critiquing lyrics

Midas says:
I seeeeee
Midas says: lyrical analist

Shelli... says:
yeppers
Shelli... says: im studying alanis's latest album (that i have)
Shelli... says: the tone is different.. and everyone admits it too
Shelli... says: she has a song defending men

Midas says:
oi

Shelli... says:
one about self less love
Shelli... says: one about self discovery
Shelli... says: one about letting go of her illusion of a love

Midas says:
I still hate her

Shelli... says:
etc etc
Shelli... says: i love her even more

Midas says:
enjoy your love then I'll fester in my dislike of her consistent bashing
Midas says: of course her next album will return to normal
Midas says: by that time the man she just got would have left her

Shelli... says:
no
Shelli... says: she's married now
Shelli... says: i just found out that the guy that spirited all these songs was...
Shelli... says: Joey from full house apparently...
Shelli... says: he had an affair with her when she was 14..

Midas says:
nice
Shelli... says: he was 15 years older.. and she was in love with him
Shelli... says: and well.. man knows no fury as a woman's wrath

Midas says:
n she's so innocent in the matter eh

Shelli... says:
aka.. you oughta know (the most bitter pissed off of her anthems)

Midas says:
cause I mean he's only 15yrs older n showing interest
Midas says: its all his fault
Midas says: oi
Midas says: women
Midas says: tell alanis to donate to me all her cash n get over it

Shelli... says:
she's happily married now

Midas says:
happy - alanis (oxymoron)

Midas: Back in action just sent you a Nudge!

Shelli... says: i beg to differ

Midas says:
of course u would
Midas says: but deep

Shelli... says:
oh wait

Midas says:
deep down we both know better

Shelli... says:
apparently its not true
Shelli... says: its some other guy
Shelli... says: that broke her heart

Midas says:
ah Oh well
Midas says: should I empathize or something

Shelli... says:
idk stupes
Shelli... says: aint nobody askin you to empathize

Midas says:
she should write a song thanking that guy
Midas says: if it weren't for him she wouldn't have been so successful
Midas says: but I doubt she'll see it that way

Shelli... says:
stupes
Shelli... says: life would've thrown ome curve ball for her to write about

Midas says:
yea cause she would have to learn eventually therefore instead of b*tching for money why not see itt as lesson learnt - stepping stone to something greater instead of kill the male species

Shelli... says:
she wasn't "b*tching" for money
Shelli... says: she was expressing how she felt
Shelli... says: not all of her albums were famous
Shelli... says: not all of them sold out in stores

Midas says:
take it easy I'm just playing at cha

Shelli... says:
they were just her thoughts and i doubt she relies on her music entirely for an income.. no celebrity relies entirely on it
Shelli... says: heh

Midas says:
oi you're so easy to get riled Up in defense of women \
Midas says: *sigh* that was fun

Shelli... says:
lol

Midas says:
got anybody else for me to twist

Shelli... says:
umm
Shelli... says:
How long can a girl be shackled to you
How long before my dignity is reclaimed
How long can a girl stay haunted by you
Soon I'll grow up and I won't even flinch at your name

Midas says:
flich - Alnis Morissett

Shelli... says:
you know it?!
Shelli... says: how'd you know?

Midas says:
u were listening to it this evening

Shelli... says:
i listened to many songs this evening
Shelli... says: want it?

Midas says:
hell no

Shelli... says:
its quite beautiful and calming
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
What's it been over a decade?
It still smarts like it was four minutes ago
We only influenced each other totally
We only bruised each other even more so

Midas says:

it's quite alnis so spare me

Shelli... says:

What are you my blood? You touch me like you are my blood
What are you my dad? You affect me like you are my dad
Shelli... says:
Where've you been? I heard you moved to my city
My brother saw you somewhere downtown
I'd be paralyzed if I ran into you
My tongue would seize up if we were to meet again

What are you my god? You touch me like you are my god
What are you my twin? You affect me like you are my twin

Midas says:

u obviously didint see the spare me part
Midas says:
nudge me when yr done

You have just sent a Nudge!

Midas says:
hi

Shelli... says:
its a lovely song
Shelli... says: you should give her some credit
Shelli... says: its not even sad like 'foolish games'

Midas says:
I did I give her lots of credit
Midas says: I just dont like her n nothing's gonna change that - to we HOPELESS HOPELESS ROMANTICS people like her we can live without
Midas says: so all props to her
Midas says: she's prolly great
Midas says: but spare me
Midas says: I'll survive without her

Shelli... says:
she's a hopeless romantic
Shelli... says: haven't you heard "precious illusions"?
Shelli... says: she threw in knights on white horses and all

Midas says:
very nice to know - trust me she aint no hopeless romantic - she's female
Midas says: big difference

Shelli... says:
so your premise is that females can't be hopeless romantics?
Shelli... says: bc she's female the knights theme is cliche and expected?
Midas says: my premise is that most if not all females are romantics
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
fyi, males are not generally deemed and considered hopeless romantics
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
poor chap
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
i beg to differ
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
i believe that the roles are shifting... i'm not sure about whether its for the better
Midas: Back in action says:
I know u would
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
but there's one too many independent stubborn career oriented women out there to say such a statement
Midas: Back in action says:
yr like chicken Licken
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
maybe a decade ago you could have risked that statement
Midas: Back in action says:
bullsh*t at heart they all want to be swept off their feet n they all enjoy the romance of a relationship
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
but not in today's society where alot of girls see guys as dispensable as a toothbrush if it comes in conflict with their bigger picture
Midas: Back in action says:
men as well as women are romantics no matter how stubborn we pretend to be
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
stupes.. at some level, it's human nature to feel wanted
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
but that doesn't fall into the category of a romantic
Midas: Back in action says:
at core level we were made to co exist - its our nature so we are all romantics
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
sometimes, the luxury of such might be inviting... but they get over it
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
co existance is not synonymous with romantics
Midas: Back in action says:
co existence is consistent with the need for interaction n socialism which stems the furits of courtship n need I say more
Midas: Back in action says:
unfortunately being human we get it wrong n we screw with in turns makes the one thing that we all search for so much greater when its found hence why love is ineffable
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
co existance stems to a lot of things.. but that doesn't always necessitate courtship
Midas: Back in action says:
because its beyond our comprehension but the reality is it 's not to be comprehended
Midas: Back in action says:
where male female co exist there will be attraction shells dont be naive
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
not every relation between male and female leads straight to romance... unless you're moving onto another false premise of friendship not being possible
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
i have friends who are just friends and are male.. no attraction on either end
Midas: Back in action says:
no one said every relation
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
your generalized statement implied such...
Midas: Back in action says:
but on the basis of co existence shells attraction will arise
Midas: Back in action says:
bullsh*t
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
thats not true
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
"co existence is consistent with the need for interaction n socialism which stems the furits of courtship n need I say more"
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
co existance is the foundation on what everything is based upon
Midas: Back in action says:
had we not the need for companionship then there would be no need for the female race
Midas: Back in action says:
deny it as much as you like but we need you you need us
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
heh.. the direction the world is going, there will be no need for the male race
Midas: Back in action says:
bullsh*t
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
in a bit it would be possible to create a baby using the mothers dna and such only
Midas: Back in action says:
that my friend is only an illusion
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
1. To exist together, at the same time, or in the same place.
2. To live in peace with another or others despite differences, especially as a matter of policy: “recognize and accept, as every President in the nuclear age has, that this means coexisting with the Soviet Union” (McGeorge Bundy).

Midas: Back in action says:
wats dis
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
thus by dictionary definition, co existance has nothing to do with relationships to be exact, not in the sense you're speaking of
Midas: Back in action says:
oi
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
it basically says that we're tolerant of each of other based on cultural values and in some innate level we need each other for help with survival
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
like how wolves operate
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
in a pack
Midas: Back in action says:
such the mind of the primal
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
bc i'm on a logical level and not with my head in the clouds i'm primal?
Midas: Back in action says:
just hitting below the belt for fun
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
actually... that makes my point further
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
of first importance; fundamenta
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
definition of primal
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
thank you for validating my point
Midas: Back in action says:
I argue with a on my face n rarely get set unless I feel extremely strongly on the matter
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
its FUNDAMENTAL
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
im not upset either
Midas: Back in action says:
u lost me
Midas: Back in action says:
where are u now
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
where am i now?
Midas: Back in action says:
u lost me at my primal comment
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
you called me primal... but at its best and worst... primal means fundamental, of first importance
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
so i was thanking you for validating my statements, being the gentleman that you are
Midas: Back in action says:
n which statements we validating now

Midas: Back in action just sent you a Nudge!

Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
my entire arguement which you aptly chose the word 'primal' to summarize
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
thus cancelling your arguement and undermining your argument.. if we shall stoop to the level of debating semantics
Midas: Back in action says:
right Shelli u cannt tell me that co existence does not bears the fruits of courtship which in turn fuels the romance ppl like me enjoy
Midas: Back in action says:
I'm not telling you that co existence bears only one fruit
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
coexistance is like the roots and trunk of a tree..
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
courtship is but a twig leading to a leaf on such a tree
Midas: Back in action says:
nor am I saying that every co existant relationship leads to such
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
NOT a root
Midas: Back in action says:
cause we are all created with individual needs
Midas: Back in action says:
thus too each his own
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
individual needs which are highly influenced by culture
Midas: Back in action says:

Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
and today's culture preaches too much about feminism, independence (not INTERdependence), progress, money, career to place the notions of yesterday on it
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
like i said, maybe back then it would be safe to say such a statement as we are all romantics at the core
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
but some people are just too heartless to be a romantic muchless harbour romantic thoughts
Shelli... to say these things i dun wanna say but have to say them anyway... says:
i was reading a book today that touched the cultural difference with the western civilisation and how greatly it differs to the east just today
Midas: Back in action says:
the circumstances of life create the persona to which one is identified which does not lend to the truth at heart of this particular individual, even the most heinous of men women which graced our planet had the concept of love romance at heart, we a re born as such the changes we undergo will either bring that to surface or hide such until the time when it is to be shown
Midas: Back in action says:
we create culture in turn culture creates us but we are not defined solely by the environment in which we exist
Midas: Back in action says:
at heart there is something which links us all, which allows us to bear witness to the label human n this extends far past the reach of the physical attriebutes of man
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
many of those whom you speak of... indeed have the kindness and romance at the innermost core... but it doesn't always manifest itself, and many go through life in the absense of romance despite their abilities
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
AND furthermore, society is at its most insular and cut off than its ever been
Midas: Back in action says:
the absence of romance seen in their lives does not eliminate the existence of romance at their hearts
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
you can take it straight down and strip it to the common day village life and bear witness to the grave differences to that of the past
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
stupes
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
you're being foolish
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
i don't understand your argument
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
everybody harbours the will to kill given the right circumstances deep within them.. but not every individual becomes a killer
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
your point?
Midas: Back in action says:
see wat I mean you will not be able to comprehend the matters which you blind yourself because logic creates a wall which inhibits the comprehension of things yr "logic" deems impractical
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
logic means "inexorable truth"
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
i still think my point stands
Midas: Back in action says:
logic is logic - the dictionary was created based on logic by a man
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
at the very core each human harbours the qualities to do anything from romance, to murder, to peacefulness and harmony, to stealing and envy, lust, greed.. etc you get my point.
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
Due to circumstances, certain qualities manifest much stronger than others
Midas: Back in action says:
exactly wat I've been trying to tell you
Midas: Back in action says:
maybe yr not so dumb after all
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
lots of things were created by man lik.. heh.., i'm not going into atheistic arguments tonight eh
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
what you've been saying is different russel
Midas: Back in action says:
why not
Midas: Back in action says:
wat u understood by my words is different
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
i've been saying whole night that today's societies does not contain a majority of (hopeless) romantics
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
you said it does bc at the core everyone can be romantic
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
-.-
Midas: Back in action says:
I havent been trying to prove the existence of Hopeless romantics rather the existence of romantics in each of us, never said that every romantic was a hopeless romantic thus yr logic again confuses you little one
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
stupes
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
easy for you to change tune so late in the discussion
Midas: Back in action says:
i havent
Midas: Back in action says:
its hard for you to admit a mistake o logical one
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
yes you have
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
if you could show me the mistake.. then i'd admit it
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
but i don't see one
Midas: Back in action says:
u already see your mistake its yr admittance I'm waiting on - My arguement was on the sole basis of romantics within each of us stemming from my comment that Alanis is a female n not a hopeless romantic
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
very nice to know - trust me she aint no hopeless romantic - she's female
Shelli... says: so your premise is that females can't be hopeless romantics?
Shelli... says: bc she's female the knights theme is cliche and expected?
Midas says: my premise is that MOST if not ALL FEMALES are romantics

Midas: Back in action says:
see the word there ROMANTICS
Midas: Back in action says:
dO YOU SEE HOPELESS BEFORE
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
men as well as women ARE ROMANTICS no matter how
stubborn we pretend to be
at core level we were made to co exist - its our nature so WE ARE ALL romantics

Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
stupes you're arguing semantics?
Midas: Back in action says:
exactly again I say ROMANTICS
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
the debate wasn't about HOPELESS.. it became romantic being common today
Midas: Back in action says:
wat are u blind deaf or maybe u r dumb
Shelli... in the exact same way you never did. says:
-.-
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On a random side note... quote of the day
well.. humourous folk quote of the day
if you make yourself grass,
ass gon eat ya.

I'm out.

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