Say wha yuh feel fi say...an me ah say wha me feel fi say

By 8:05 PM , , , , , ,
Hello, I am Shelli. According to my Blogger Dashboard, 
I am a blogger and I currently run 10 blogs on their server. 
Thank you.

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Does anyone else hate the new bus system at school... so that the campus is a walking campus?

I was traipsing all over town and by the time I got to Grand Anse I was reluctant to wait on one of those unpredictable buses. I hate SGU's new bus system. I'm extremely reluctant to be walking up and down a hill in the hot sun... much less running behind these "pick up and drop off" buses. I'm almost certain that most existing "walking campuses" are on flat territory. Hello? Hills are bad for the knees?

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So I nearly missed my Politics class today due to lateness - again. But I'm surely glad I didn't.

Today we dealt with a statement made by the President of Trinidad and Tobago that kinda struck home something that I was musing over myself in a different situation. The class discussion basically helped to shape exactly what was the underlying principle being violated.

Apparently the President, Kamla Persad-Bissessar, said “We will have to look at ways in which we would be able to assist. But you would recall my comments earlier this year, when I said there must some way in which Trinidad and Tobago would also benefit.” In the wake of the current Hurricane Tomas that did some damage to other Caribbean territories. As usual, I'm always late with news. My Prof. is St. Lucian so he was relating the events on what he's heard about the state of affairs over there, the wellbeing of his family, etc. It was a retrospective moment I believe for all of us in the class that endured Ivan in 2004.
(Quote referenced from the article on Caribbean 360.

Naturally, the territories want some assistance. People lost lives. Homes are destroyed. It was a traumatic experience. And the President is making a statement about doing a favour to get a favour.

True, what she is saying is not a lie. No one is contending a lack of truth in her words. Obviously, if you're going to help another country you're going to try to help yourself as well. You want both parties to benefit from the arrangement... Nothing is for nothing these days right? Hand wash hand make hand come clean? But is it really necessary to be that frank about it? That insensitive?

I was telling a couple friends a few weeks back that were dealing with personal issues within the group that they were miscommunicating. The words they were choosing were the truth but were delivering results whereby the other parties were taking offense and becoming defensive and further creating a rift.

I always say there is more than one way to say the same thing and get your message across without starting a war. One must learn to manage your mouth and not run away with the first impulses that tickle your throat to be uttered. While I haven't mastered the art of choosing my words carefully, in fact I have become rather rusty... It is the one major thing I took from my 2 year of Law at college - choose your words carefully. Take a moment, think, and then speak. And when you do speak, do so in a manner that's diplomatic at its worst but clear in it's meaning at its best.

Because at the end of the day it's not what you say, but how you say it.
And I'm sure we've all been in situations whereby the argument moves from the content and actual issues to the phrasing of how the issues were being delivered or addressed.

Now the consensus of the classroom from the discussion of the students was that placed in that situation, were any one of us St. Vincent or St. Lucia, due to the nature of the offer we would refuse it. Especially today with all of these efforts and talks about regional Caribbean integration and we're all one family - yet when disaster strikes there's commentary about seeking personal interests?

Imagine though the same message was framed differently... Let's say she said instead "In the wake of the devastation of the Hurricane, as part of the Caribbean Community, Trinidad and Tobago will naturally be willing to administer any possible aid within our means to our fellow territories in a many that would be beneficial to all of us."

Same underlying message - different phrasing. Who could vex wit da? Even if yuh vex, yuh won't be so vex to not accept the help begrugingly self.

Another quote that my Prof. had referenced was a quote by a Republican who said that they would do everything in their power to make sure that Obama is a "one-term President."

Again... again... mismanagement of your words. One speaks too loosely. Even if that's ultimately your intentions, the country doesn't need to know that. Your purpose is not even about supporting policies good for the country, it is about seeking party interests entirely?

To coin a quote my Prof. said that I really liked (mostly because of the alliteration is it?) was that "We need to rise above these petty party partisan politics and think about the country especially in these economic times where people are suffering."

That concludes my early evening rant.

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Now that I'm here baby, show me a good time.
Shelli out.

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*sigh* you never let me have any fun :(

By 8:36 AM ,
Everyone loves a bit of drama, no?

So upon a little bit more research, the "Burn a Koran Day" post a few posts back... was actually inspired by the notions of building a mosque near the 9/11 site. I don't think it really came to pass though. 9/11 has come and gone. I believe the idiotic pastor changed his mind a lil' bit after my initial post.

Anyways, as anticipated, Muslims aren't too pleased about the whole situation.

Excerpt... (posted Monday 13th Sept. 2.19 am via Indian Express)
In Afghanistan, protesters chanting “Death to America” and “Death to Christians” clashed with security forces in Logar, south of the capital. Seven demonstrators were wounded, when Afghan security forces opened fire to disperse protesters marching to Pul-e-Alam. The police said two of the wounded died. “The Governor must give us an assurance that the church is not going to burn the Koran, otherwise we will attack foreign troop bases in our thousands,” protester Mohammad Yahya said.
While Jones abandoned his plan, there were at least two incidents of abuse of the Koran in New York on Saturday. Meanwhile, on Sunday, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, a cleric linked to the building of the Islamic centre near Geound Zero, said the burning of the Koran “would have created a disaster in the Muslim world. It would have strengthened the radicals”.

Like they didn't see that coming... stupes

At least they didn't go ahead with the burning though... it would've far worse.

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Till... later
Deuce

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These five words in my head scream, "Are we having fun yet?"

By 12:29 PM , , , , ,
Epic summer.
Climax/Anti-climax

I thought about the world
Drank gin and watched the news
And there are some things I'll never understand
Why the country needs a God
And a woman needs a man 

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And it's like everytime I turn around I fall in love 
...And find my heart faced down...
And where it lands... is where it should
...Something's gotta go wrong cuz I'm feeling way too damn good
- Nickelback "Feelin' way too damn good"

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Oh the awkward moments of social networking... You add one person and then someone else you know casually through them adds you and you're faced with the question - Do I accept on the basis of casual acquaintance? Do I reject because under normal circumstances I wouldn't have even bothered to send a friend request vice versa? Or do I leave it pending... so that deliberation spares all feelings involved? Hmm...



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The merits of time management?

As a procrastinator/disorganized individual... How many times have you ever decided to use a planner and plan out your weeks/months? And how long did that ever last for?

I'm doing this class - Review of English and Study Skills. Initially, I was annoyed that I had to do it but this first assignment has only showed me how disorganized I am. I knew I was a bit off before, but I didn't realize how much. We had to do a weekly and monthly planner. I well catch my backside to work out the daily/weekly planner - I ran out of hours in a day considering all the things I convinced myself that I do and the amount of time I spend idling. And I knew I had a filled semester even though my schedule looks so spaced out subject-wise... but filling out the next four months on a calender just made me realize I don't have a life for the next four months really, unless I come up with a brilliant game plan.. hmm...


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So... before this talk gets stale... Lemme talk about this 'Burn a Qu'ran Day' thing. 

Are they crazy??? The irony is, before I knew this was going on, some friends and I had a religious argument in the Library and naturally it got heated. The firm Christian believers would become very impassioned and the argument matures into something it really didn't need to be. At the end of it all, as with all these types of arguments all I have to say is - God, regardless of religion, sends the worst public relations people to try and convince me of any inclinations to believe in organized religion.

And then along comes this idiot to validate my point. When in doubt, just wait - there's always some dotish person around to misrepresent. 

I mean I have so many opinions on this but all are negative. On a religious scale, how is this even ok? Is that what God is telling you in the bible?? Whatever happened to respecting your fellow man? Imagine the grand scale offense it would be if the Muslims decided to have a "Burn a Bible day." You want people of other religions to respect yours and live alongside you peacefully, but at the same time you want to be disrespectful??

On a civil rights scale, America has too many freedoms. I posted a while back about my surprise and annoyance at their stance with the 'right to burn (their own) flag' as a means of self-expression... C'mon, you have to draw the line somewhere... Some of these rights are inevitably going to violate other people's rights in some way and you can't keep bending and changing your mind every time someone decides "Oh, we should have a right to do this..." That just makes you seem confused and way too accepting. And it creates an even bigger problem sometimes...

....In a political sense. This is more than just a religious issue. If it was a "Burn a Bible day" issue, it would've been something religious. It probably wouldn't have even ventured beyond the forum of a religious offense. However, it's supposed to be done on the day of 9.11... the day of the alleged terrorist attacks. I say alleged because I'm also one of those people, as indicated in previous posts, that believes there's some merit to the conspiracy talk and think too many curious events surround the whole thing. (But I'll save the elaborate discussion for a future post) 

Back to today's schedule message.... Burning it sends a whole different message on a political scale. You're not just offending Muslims within the US but those outside... Those who additionally, might I add, are not afraid to kill you and themselves to prove a point? And when they react, it's most likely not going to be some petty one little church response, but something that would wipe out a lot of people... Remember, beware of the fearless person with nothing to lose???

Facebook page "Burn a Koran Day" with a "Islam is the devil" profile pic? Seriously?! 13,992 fans?! 

Need two good solid slap between their sense and their non sense... das wha...

Stupes...

Idiots.

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On a funny note...
check the following vid... His myspace has it better though

I'm 50 tyson *wink*





So I could stay warm when I was without you 
Without you I don't sleep 
Just dream... 


-Jack's Mannequin "Last Straw" 



Today is another rainy day. I'm freezing. Let me resume being an ice cube now.
Shelli out.

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Go back to sleep...

By 9:25 PM , ,
I just saw the most disturbing vid. I don't even remember how I landed on the video, but I remember seeing a warning about the images being graphic and disturbing. However, while it is graphic - it's nothing that movies haven't desensitized us to already and it's not even as graphic as the very worst of them, e.g., Saw. What was disturbing was the ideas it was pushing.

I know not many people will agree with what I'm about to say. The video is based on the war in Iraq. It has images from bombing the people. Words on screen pushing the idea that the attack is valid, and they are doing God's work. In fact, at the end of the video they say "Either we help you meet your maker...or you can take matters into your own hands."

As I watched it... several thoughts ran through my head. First of all, there are wicked people all over - and you don't have to be Muslim to be wicked. There are wicked Christians too *cough* slavery... *cough* the Crusades... *cough* Well... furthermore, this isn't even about religion...wicked people exist period, regardless. And just as there are wicked amongst us in every group, there are good people too...or those who at the very least, want to be good or have the potential to be but just aren't strong enough to stand up against the masses.

Secondly, I don't believe that all of Iraq is fully supportive of the terrorist movements. I do believe that there must be some innocent people over there... and it's not right to just kill everyone.

Thirdly... remember the Crusades? Destroying the Muslim holy places... Isn't the Jihad just the Crusades in reverse? All those who are saying "those people must not know God or fear God to attack Americans and attack Christians"....what do you think the Muslims were saying about the Christian belief in God?

Lastly... I'm not saying it's right. I don't fully believe terrorists did 9/11. I don't fully trust America either. I mean... there was no weapons of mass destruction to begin with - but that was one of the themes they were pushing. They have technology to see a license plate via satellite.... but they can't find one man that can't survive without a dialysis (Osama Bin Laden)? There's too many questions swimming around that whole thing. The media naturally, as with what they do with every idea they want society to accept, just as with homosexuality (no I'm not homophobic but for the sake of argument) has found ways to incorporate the culture of fear and terrorism into most of their programs from sitcoms to movies. Every where you turn, the media is telling you how you're supposed to feel about Muslims, terrorists, etc... the level of fear and suspicion who're supposed to be experiencing... Who pays the media? Who do they rely on for support...? Oh right.. let's think back to Elections... it all comes back to the governments. Therefore, the people are merely puppets on a string, blindly accepting everything thats being pushed to them. What are the real intentions of the those leading?

I don't support fighting violence with violence... although I heard a quote in the 'A-Team' movie that even Ghandi the pacifist said that in certain situations it is warranted. I don't support just killing people either. But I believe in the world we live in, unfortunately, it's the only thing people seem to understand when the fragility of life starts coming to the forefront with death surrounding. But I also don't believe in placing God in the rationale for killing people either as the video pushes. War isn't God's work as far as I'm concerned... but that's just me...



Check the vid out... tell me what you think?



These are some of the comments on the vid...



  • willpounder | 1 week ago
    good poor flag
    Let me post this again..... FUCK IRAQ! Pull every american out of there and and then drop an atomic bomb and wipe those mutha fuckers off the map. -2 reply
    • olympicFapper | 1 week ago
      Why dude? What did the Iraqis do to you? They didn't carry out 911, Saudi Arabia & Pakistan did most of the work. Yeah you are right though, together with the women & children, we should destroy all the remains of the Sumerian/Mesopotamian civilization, where writing, the very skill you are using to type your ignorance into words, was invented. Sure, we should destroy the Craddle of Civilization because Bill O'Reilly from Fox says so. +1 -1 reply
      • willpounder | 1 week ago
        I don't give a fuck about them, because they don't give a fuck about us. I've lost too many friends to IED's to give one shit about the Iraqis. They are savages that have no fucking value for human life. Look at how they treat women. SAVAGES. And who gives a shit about where language came from. I used to go to a Bob's Big Boy when I was a kid and it was leveled to make room for an apartment complex so life changes. It's time for theirs to be extinguished. -1 reply
        • olympicFapper | 1 week ago
          How many Iraqis have you met in your life? reply
          • gynecologist | 1 week ago
            Iraq?..no .....but I knew an Iranian pretty well,. my brother's girlfriend.. she was nice... during one thanksgiving family get together, she was invited..,..and she went ahead and carved the whole turkey,.. I swear, after she was done with her handy knife-work,..not one scrap of meat was left on that damn thing !!! (10 minutes later at most)... never seen anything like it.. -ever since then,..she was known to us as the "terrorist" -lovely story,.huh reply
    • turdusmcflurdus | 1 week ago
      yeah lets be retro and use atomic bombs.... thats so 1950s cool man......seriously tho we are far to concerned about collateral damage and civilian deaths..... we could be much harder on them.... much much harder reply

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Only in Grenada....

By 7:33 PM , ,
Canada Press

Grenada Cops arrest an American man for celebrating Obama's win.
ST. GEORGE'S, Grenada — A New York man's noisy celebration of Barack Obama's victory landed him in a Caribbean jail.
Police in Grenada say Roy Coutain was honking his horn and relentlessly shouting, "Obama! Obama!" as he drove through the streets of the capital in a car covered with U.S. flags.
He wore an Obama T-shirt - in case his allegiance was in doubt.
Island police arrested Coutain and charged him with disorderly behaviour, obscene language and resisting arrest.
Coutain is from Grenada but has lived in New York state and is a U.S. citizen.
Coutain was recorded on video telling police: "The entire world is excited and you don't want me to celebrate! I voted and I have a right to celebrate!"

Now should you click on the link... you'd see they went so far as to show us the location of Grenada on a map.

Of all the things for us to make news with, we just couldn't help ourselves.

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Maya sent me some delightfully funny links... I'll post my fave pics below and the corresponding links.









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Ok... so my official-ish election-ish post.

By 9:22 PM
Now I have been super busy recently. Turns out being a student is disastrous to the rest of your social life. I lay on my bed each night with the lingering thoughts, "...I will get up and paint in a moment..." I wake up the next morning. -.-

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Moving along. Turns out Tuesday was a remarkable day. One that must be marked off on calenders. One that must be entered into updated textbooks.

Here was I moaning and groaning (to myself of course) that all the eventful stuff happened in other eras, nothing good is happening in mine. I was alive to experience the first hurricane to hit Grenada since Janet 50 years back. I am alive to see the huge economic crash that's going on...

My mind flutters back to Tupac's 'Changes' - "...And although it seems heaven sent, we ain't ready yet to see a black president....It ain't a secret don't conceal the fact, the penitentiary's packed, and it's filled with blacks...But some things will never change..."

I guess he was right, up til Tuesday. Of course, the prison situation hasn't changed....BUT Rome wasn't built in a day. America now has a black president. Maybe now that there is a black role model that just proved 'yes you can' do it, we'll see some changes. Pun intended.

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On Election Day itself... I must be living in one of the 'boring-est' places in NY, that is Wakefield Bx, because nothing happened. Or rather nothing seemed to happen. I woke up late to the sound of my phone alarming. I got up, trudged around the house...got ready for school and left...

...It was warm outside. I saw the occasional person walking along the streets but not much...not even that much traffic. Then again, it was past midday. But the polling station was supposedly right next door in the school.

After class I asked a couple of my classmates what were their views on the election and whom they voted for. To no surprise, my classmates that I asked that I asked all voted Democrat. One of the girls had voted absentee due to originally being from Connecticut and not having had the chance to re-register. I asked them why they voted Democrat, most of them replied that they voted based on the basis of being very liberal. However, two made the point of their parents being Democrats, and having grown up in a Democratic household they just never thought to question it. I met one Asian guy who did not vote because he said he wasn't really that interested in politics, nor was he really following what was going on. I think that's a bit strange, it's almost as if one would have to put in an extra concerted effort not to be even remotely cognizant of the strong campaigning that was happening. It was on tv, the internet - especially Facebook, newspapers, etc... at risk of being cliché, it was what "all the buzz was about" in the media. Anyway, different strokes for different folks, right? One of my male classmates who is Democrat made mention of one of his friends that's just plain out controversial and was overly passionate about Obama for just that one reason. I mean, he said his friend made the occasional valid point, but for the most he was just loving the controversy of it all.

One of my closest friends, Joe, from upstate (Rochester), said he didn't vote because he doesn't think the electoral college is very democratic... However if he was to, he would've voted for Obama hands down because he, my friend, is liberal and "it scares the bejesus out of him, the idea of Palin being a heart attack away from being president." *shudders* Palin would have surely made America the laughing stock of the world. Another friend of mine, Ryan, from Virginia, who was a diehard Republican voted Democrat. He refuses to see this as jumping ship... and me being me, I can't help but relentlessly tease him about his lack of party loyalty. His rationale was that, he wasn't concerned with most of the policies either party was dealing like health care and so forth because it doesn't affect him. He also rationalized that both parties, regardless of who becomes president will have dealing with the economy of their main agendas and are aware of public scrutiny with how it is handled. His deal breaker was that Obama would help to change the perception of Americans outside of the US. America is diverse and open-minded enough to have a black president. He also thought Obama has a more charismatic, soothing persona amidst everything that is happening.

Well.. Obama won... by a landslide. With, not surprisingly, record breaking turn outs from the youths... who said the youths don't vote? :P

Anyways, being an international student and not American I couldn't vote.

My aunt who was Republican, didn't vote. I personally don't believe she was pleased with either candidate, but her rationale was a discrepancy in her address and registration since her recent change of residence.

The street was quiet. Our house was quiet. My aunt was flicking between channels and then eventually went to sleep early.

At that point, I near forgot it was Election day. I remember being in my room Tuesday night trying to study for my Biology lecture midterms the next day, when my dad called me from Grenada all excitedly, around 10-11 pm shouting happily over the phone "Obama won Obama won...! It's not official but he's winning...!" For someone who wasn't American, nor even living in the country, he's been following the campaigning very closely. As have many of my friends from back home. One of which called merely 5-10 minutes after my dad to make a similar announcement. Then my other aunt upstairs called and announced that Obama was president and everyone got up and gathered around the tv waiting for the speech. I walked with my laptop and signed onto Facebook while I waited. All my friends from back home were changing their statuses every 5 minutes like they couldn't decide which words revealed the true intensity of what they were feeling... Overall, everyone seemed so excited at the promise of a change with Obama and that this change would renew the hope with the state of the economy, and its transcending global effects.

I have a friend that came up from Grenada over the weekend that was staying in Brooklyn. She was telling me how crazy it was down there. It looked like there was a carnival going on like we were back home. People in the streets, black, white, latino, etc all making noise and shouting and screaming happily. On the TV, I got to witness the celebrations going on in Time Square... I thought it was touching to see how teary-eyed people were in the crowds. It was one of those "Wow" moments. One random woman told a brief story that touched my heart. It brings me back to my quote from Tupac. She said a couple years ago her young black nephew said he wanted to be the President of the United States when he grew up. She said she didn't want to shatter his dream, but nuntheless she didn't want to tell him how absurd a notion it was from her perception of America and who is considered eligible race-wise for certain positions... She says it brought tears to her eyes to see Obama win. She never thought she would see it in her lifetime and her was the proof. Her nephew isn't dreaming the impossible dream.

So... yea... Tupac was wrong.. we are ready. Let's just hope they give him a fair chance to do his job.


Shelli out.

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Yes we can.

By 12:41 PM
Today is Election Day in the US.


Although I haven't stepped foot outside as yet, nor so much as put on a t.v., I feel as if it's my duty to write a pre-post entry on such a momentous day.

What are my views? Who do I want to win?

Now, sad to say, I haven't been following the election that closely nor did I really care for it that much. However, I do believe it's time for a change. Obviously Republicanism is not working too righteously, therefore give the Democrats a chance. I fail to see how the situation could get worse... Well, that's a lie. If the Republicans remain, that's a sure fire way to dig the hole a little deeper into middle Earth. Reach new unimaginable depths.

Anyways, I must depart for school.
Joyful, joyful.
Perhaps I shall walk with my camera and capture a couple moments.

hmm....
Shelli out.

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Are you serious....?

By 9:30 PM ,
Shelli is currently peeved with American racism and ideals.

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Ok... so my knowledge is not as vast nor as deep with regards to American politics...

But I'm watching the Presidential Debate now as I type.

Are the American people listening to the Republicans..? Are they hearing the words that are coming out of McCain's mouth?

The Republicans are the reason why the economy is the state that it is in as of current. I remember reading "Dude, Where's my country?" by Michael Moore, where he spoke about the tax cuts for the big wealthy business/men. They believe in the trickle down economy, whereby - give the rich some more money and maybe it would eventually trickle down to the little man. It doesn't work, hasn't been working... and looking at the state of current economic affairs, it could only get worse.

The Treasury Secretary of the American gov't put no caps on CEO severance pay offs... soooooo, as the companies fail or whatever, the CEO walks off with a nicely filled pocket.

Now, like my friend Daniel said, one of the worst moves the gov't made was to buy out the companies. It sends a bad message. It practically allows the companies to get away with their blunders, and sends the message that the gov't would rescue you from your mistakes so long as your mistakes are bigger than you thought it was, and the mistake would create global ripples... What difference does the bail out make? And... how much can the taxpayers' dollar really help one company that affected the economy that much...?

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Newsweek excerpt.
Ada vs. Wall Street
"An 80-year-old grandmother who took control of her finances wonders why bankers can't do the same."
26th Sept. 2008

According to Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and President Bush, that's pretty much what's happening to several major financial institutions in the current economic crisis. In the last month, the government has brokered three bailouts (Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG) totaling nearly $400 billion. In Washington and on Wall Street, there are dire warnings that more corporate failures are awaiting us in the months ahead. While a solution is being debated, the front-running fix is Paulson's original $700 billion bailout. Taxpayer funded, it's designed to steady the markets by strengthening ailing companies and easing the current credit crunch.

..."The corporate people that are getting all the big bucks—they should investigate them and see who's to blame before they bail out anybody," she said.

...Noda says there are already criminals who need punishing in the financial fiasco: "Get rid of the CEOs and prosecute them—get rid of all these people getting the big bonus," she said. "All these other Enron people who did something—they prosecuted them and they went to jail. If you or I did something wrong we'd go to jail."
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The fact that there is no caps on the pay offs... now the workers within the company won't benefit. But the CEO walks off with all the money? Doesn't this mean that the severance pay would be in turn the equivalent to a buy out?

Doesn't the buy out make a mockery of what America stands for? Considering that capitalism rests on the foundation of no real gov't interference with private companies...?

Again, like Daniel put it, not only do the CEO's walk away scotch free and filthy rich, they jacked most of it from tax payers money.

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Opinions about the AIG bail out
Lisa Williams

"...A husband and wife have $595,000.00. What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family? Pay off your mortgage - housing crisis solved. Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads Put away money for college - it'll be there Save in a bank - create money to loan to entrepreneurs. Buy a new car - create jobs Invest in the market - capital drives growth Pay for your parent's medical insurance - health care improves Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean - or else
Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces. If we're going to re-distribute wealth let's really do it...instead of trickling out a puny $1000.00 ( 'vote buy' ) economic incentive that is being proposed by one of our candidates for President. If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout, let's bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!

As for AIG - liquidate it. Sell off its parts. Let American General go back to being American General. Sell off the real estate. Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up. Here's my rationale.

We deserve it and AIG doesn't. Sure it's a crazy idea that can 'never work. 'But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party! How do you spell Economic Boom? I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC And remember, The Birk plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam."

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Convo with Daniel on msn.


Dvs says:
why was this company saved anyways? like what made
them so special that the government
decided it was necessary to keep them around?

Shelli...... rocks says:
yep
Shelli...... rocks says:
aig... they're insurance GLOBALLY
Shelli...... rocks says:
so if they went down... they take everything down too
Shelli...... rocks says:
im not sure if thats the one they bailed out.. was it only one?
Shelli...... rocks says:
but i think thats one
Shelli...... rocks says:
and another one i heard about was a mortgage company
that handled over 50% over mortgages in america

Dvs says:
ok, so they went bankrupt, theyre an insurance company........

Shelli...... rocks says:
yea
Shelli...... rocks says:
and insurance handles everything

Dvs says:
oh no now if my car crashes i wont be gettin my money back

Shelli...... rocks says:
its not like abank... its bigger than a bank.. the banks
invest with insurance companies
Shelli...... rocks says:
your car, your house
Shelli...... rocks says:
your backside (beyonce)

Dvs says:
lol

Shelli...... rocks says:
and j. lo
Shelli...... rocks says:
lol

Dvs says:
you would wonder how an insurance company goes bankrupt....all things
considered the only time money leaves is
when something happens (ie: buildings are destroyed)
why in the world would they go bankrupt?
Dvs says:
was it the hurricane?

Shelli...... rocks says:
precisely
Shelli...... rocks says:
i doubt
Shelli...... rocks says:
in my business class all i kept hearing was wall street greed
Shelli...... rocks says:
a lot of these companies had greedy intentions
and it collapsed in and of itself
Shelli...... rocks says:
they held out longer than they should
Shelli...... rocks says:
and made a series of business mistakes
Shelli...... rocks says:
and bad decisions
Shelli...... rocks says:
and it led to great losses

Dvs says:
so basically in a last ditch attempt to get out
of paying for all of the damages, they just
filed bankruptcy?
Dvs says:
wow
Dvs says:
....

Shelli...... rocks says:
pretty much
Shelli...... rocks says:
if you cant pay.. file for bankruptcy

Dvs says:
kinda proves the use of insurance now dont it

Shelli...... rocks says:
and their stocks are still being sold

Dvs says:
a victory for capitalism
Dvs says:
if the ppl want your product they will buy, even if its an illusion
Dvs says:
youd think the ceos would be taken to court
Dvs says:
i guess the buyout was necessary, not to save the
company so much as repay the citizens

Shelli...... rocks says:
yea pretty much
Shelli...... rocks says:
and yea you would think so...
Shelli...... rocks says:
but dan, they're greivin... give them more more
Shelli...... rocks says:
money
Shelli...... rocks says:
lol.... it would be unconscionable to take them
to court in their depressive state

Dvs says:
dont tell me thats actually why theyre gettin
away with it? greiving? because ofcourse
its in the name of the now-homeless survivors,
god forbid it be because they have to
part with their precious money

Shelli...... rocks says:
amen

Dvs says:
its a sad time to be an american
Dvs says:
and to imagine, voting for mccain is a matter
of values to alot of americans
Dvs says:
...well smalltown values
Dvs says:
or so they claim

Shelli...... rocks says:
one of the issues i keep hearing is...
he doesn't have experience...

Dvs says:
lol dailyshow was interviewing some of them at
the republican convention, askin what those values
were and the only answer that came out was church attendance

Shelli...... rocks says:
dan how do ppl get experience? furthermore, the ppl
with experience are makin crappy decisions
Shelli...... rocks says:
LMAO

Dvs says:
i kid you not
Dvs says:
lol yea, exprience
Dvs says:
i dont think spending time as a prisoner of war
really teaches you how to run a country
Dvs says:
kinda unrelated topics

Shelli...... rocks says:
exactly

Dvs says:
well im sad, cause my * extended family member*
was gonna vote hillary,
but since hillary lost she wants to vote mccain
Dvs says:
it doesnt make sence, i couldnt even reason with her
Dvs says:
experience indeed
Dvs says:
but pailin definitely takes the cake

Shelli...... rocks says:
can i post our convo in my blog?

Dvs says:
only if it includes you asking if it can be posted
Dvs says:
:P

Shelli...... rocks says:
lol ok

Dvs says:
and only if its used with comic intent...or at least satire
Dvs says:
ok scratch the last part

Shelli...... rocks says:
you know palin has her name associated with a party
thats tryin to remov alaska from the us and
make it independent
Shelli...... rocks says:
you know palin has her name associated with a party thats tryin
to remove alaska from the us and make it independent

Dvs says:
yea, i thought i told you that...or maybe the
other way around i dont remember
Dvs says:
ive been telling ppl that myself tho
Dvs says:
lol

Shelli...... rocks says:
imagine if there was a mere RUMOUR of this
attachment to obama

Dvs says:
well i just think its too funny, who woulda thought that
pandering for womens votes would go so far

Shelli...... rocks says:
lol

Dvs says:
yea, no i think the way everyones handling her
kids pregnancy is whats a bit much
Dvs says:
i couldnt quote it to save mylife, but jon
stewart made an excelent point about it
Dvs says:
basically saying, its amazing that theyre asking
everyone to respect their decision as a family
to keep the child, but denying all others (they even
included rape victims) the ability to make the same
choice themselves
Dvs says:
well theyre offering the same solution, but not the same choice

Shelli...... rocks says:
interesting point
Shelli...... rocks says:
ahh... you mean they made a choice in a matter that
shouldnt have to be decided on
Shelli...... rocks says:
based on her beliefs?

Dvs says:
no i mean they MADE a choice, they were giving one
regardless of the influences involved in it

Dvs says:
no i mean they MADE a choice, they were giving one
regardless of the influences involved in it

Shelli...... rocks says:
ahh..
Shelli...... rocks says:
same thing

Dvs says:
and theyre using it to set an example,
essentially denying others of the same

Shelli...... rocks says:
ohhh

Dvs says:
i mean, theyre arguing respect our descision and at
the same time trying to decide for women themselves

Shelli...... rocks says:
right

Dvs says:
its rediculous

Shelli...... rocks says:
yea
Shelli...... rocks says:
a paradox in and of its own

Dvs says:
and she also brings up the whole experience thing too
Dvs says:
yea

Shelli...... rocks says:
again
Shelli...... rocks says:
imagine if that was obama's daughter
Shelli...... rocks says:
i think the whole thing is being blown up
into something greater jus because he's black
Shelli...... rocks says:
i dont remember all this publicity with john kerry...
Shelli...... rocks says:
hell i had to rack my brain last night to remember his name
Shelli...... rocks says:
and if its for experience.... america picked bush over
kerry for experience... he created the mess and
they were too scared to change captains mid-flight. understood
Shelli...... rocks says:
but theres no excuse to keep someone..
or a party... that wasn't working in power
Shelli...... rocks says:
because of experience
Shelli...... rocks says:
how does one get experience? if not been given a chance?

Dvs says:
lol
Dvs says:
experience is just a euphemism we use
to feel better about our mistakes
Dvs says:
and yea, its sad but it really is beiing blown up this
big because he's black, i think alot of other candidates
were in no better shhoes and no more capable than
he is anyways






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Jamaica Gleaner
Will conservative ideology let Wall Street destroy capitalism?

We knew this would be the fallout. Conservative philosophy denounces ideologically the practice of government regulation. Further, it sees bail-out intervention as wrong. The market must self-correct as part of capitalism's creative destruction. Yet, today President Bush supports a bail-out.
Republican presidential candidate John McCain supports government intervention in campaign speeches, attacking greed on Wall Street. Obama supports it too, with caveats. What's new? Politics gets inextricably intertwined with economics once financial sector crash and rehabilitation turn up. We have our own FINSAC debates to guide us - what's new indeed? A bundle.
...Innovative and risky new financial instruments, once hailed as remarkably elegant, now defined as toxic, once created and marketed worldwide, take on a life of their own. The US budget deficit, according to Congressional Budget Office analysts, is $486 billion. This does not include ad hoc commitments for Bear Stearns, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac of $240 billion. Top this up with $85 billion for AIG and $700 billion for a comprehensive programme a la Resolution Trust Corporation for an unprecedented commitment of taxpayer funds and the yet unborn.
The blame game will continue and intensify. Yet the process is not new. Financial crises and their resolution evolve like this. Innovation and lax regulatory oversight, for whatever reason, are followed by ad hoc responses, which fail to contain the crisis. Comprehensive solution follows with appropriate recrimination, significant policy and legislative regulatory changes - the classic process.
The problem, however, is that this situation represents conditions underlying both the way the world economy now works and the way the international monetary system evolved haphazardly, to facilitate it. The US dollar is the world's currency despite the emergence of the euro and Britain's insistence on maintaining sterling in its effort to provide some independence for domestic economic policy and the place of the city of London as a major financial centre.
...He wants a blank cheque with no oversight. Some see Paulson as making a power grab from an unpopular lame-duck President who must stay out of the public square. While Lou Dobbs calls the plan idiotic, its Liberal critics insist the bail-out should not simply hug up toxic assets no private entity would buy off Wall Street's books without potential taxpayer benefit. The bail-out must buy a stake in the business. Politically, the bailout as currently proposed - no possibility of judicial review, no relief for small banks, credit unions, homeowners - may prove more difficult to achieve than bi-partisan authority to make war in Iraq. This is why world financial markets continue to be spooked.
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I heard this in the debate....when I was momentarily able to stomach the level of b.s. I was ingesting through my ears.

Should they have gone into war? I personally think the war was unnecessary. I don't believe 1/10th of what the gov't had to say. I believe the war was just an excuse to get over to the East. It's shrouded in too many question marks regarding how the whole thing was handled. I'm not even sure why they went over there... and no, I don't believe it really had to do with Al Quieda.

I'm even on the borderline of believing the conspiracy theories behind WTC attacks. Too many plausible question marks I say.. too many. Furthermore, you could see the details on your license plate from satellite. But they can't find ONE man on a DIALYSIS machine? C'mon... people are foolish, but not that foolish. What does he do? He has solar powered dialysis machines in every cave to help out his situation?

Anyways... that being said.

***

I find it even more annoying that many people are missing the value of what Obama is saying because they're too distracted by the colour of his skin. America prides itself on supposedly overcoming the evils and detaching itself in some ways from the legacy of slavery. They believe they have let go racial discrimination, and opened the doors to equality amongst everyone despite gender or colour...

Here's their objectivity proof test on these beliefs. Guess what, they're failing.

It's absurd how one track the critical thinking arguments are with this whole matter. They're not even paying attention to what policies are being advocated much less whats being said about the current state of affairs within the country. This is the time to make use of all the mud slinging transparency that's being brought to the table with the American gov't and how the country is being run. Your country.

Instead, the debate revolves around experience, skin colour, the reverend's statements, Palin "is a MILF" and super hot. *ahem* This isn't going to save the economy.

And frankly, it isn't going to save America either.

Shelli out.

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